It’s been no secret that the box office has fallen on some hard times, not just for adult films but for animated artsy titles.

Guillermo Del Toro, who won a Golden Globe Tuesday night for his animated film Pinocchio was asked backstage by a reporter what he thought the state of moviegoing would be like from now on.

Del Toro’s Nightmare Alley was nominated for four Oscars last year and grossed a little over $11 million at the box office. For Pinocchio, the famous director was rejected by every major motion picture studio for the past 10 years until Netflix took it on.

“Everybody wants a definition when we’re In middle of transition and change and a crisis at the same time,” the Mexican Oscar winner said. “We just survived the transformation of delivery, the arrival of a pandemic and everybody thinks we should define where we’re going in a year or two,” he continued.

“It will define itself in the incoming decade. And the most important thing is to keep the size of the idea big. We’re worried about the size of the screen,” said del Toro, however, despite whether films debuted in theaters or streaming, “this year’s full of ambition and big swings and larges movies,” the director added that are “varied and rich.”

Del Toro said this on the big screen future: “We need a little bit of history to talk about (it) with a little certainty.”